Utter Depravity

[Calvins_Kid]

Hey all,

I would like to ask for ya'lls help on this, cause I'm not sure I got it straight:

[glow=red,2,300]Does total depravity apart from common Grace necessitate utter depravity?[/glow]

Utter depravity: Man will always choose the worst possible thing every time he is faced with a choice and be the worst he possibly can be.

[Paul A. Kaiser]

I haven't fully worked that out yet but by definition TD is not that man is as corrupt as he can be but rather that he is totally affected by sin in all aspects: Mind, Action, Body, etc.

I would however contend that without God's restraining grace in the lives of man we would be much more detestable and debase than we are.

Any thoughts?

[Ryan Dozier]

I think you could logically deduce this from scripture. However, I too have not studied this issue.

[Calvins_Kid]

Thanks for the replies:

TD is not that man is as corrupt as he can be but rather that he is totally affected by sin in all aspects: Mind, Action, Body, etc.

This really helps me mold it, thanks

I think you could logically deduce this from scripture. However, I too have not studied this issue.

and thanks for that... I'm going to have a look into it..